Curse

Mountain Man · Jun 16, 2005, 06:49 PM // 18:49

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Originally Posted by Synthos

Good point, but relgion is still a factor.

If you really want to press the point, perhaps you should consider the fact that atheist dictators like Stalin, Hitler, Moa, and others are responsible for some of the world's greatest attrocities.

ManadartheHealer · Jun 16, 2005, 06:50 PM // 18:50

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Originally Posted by elenna

They're still there on my screen. It is odd.

Especially the one about "Persecution"...suspicious

Kuku Monk · Jun 16, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

Especially the one about "Persecution"...suspicious

the ad engine probably gets key words from the page and pops up an appropriate ad...just a marketing technique

ManadartheHealer · Jun 16, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by Mountain Man

If you really want to press the point, perhaps you should consider the fact that atheist dictators like Stalin, Hitler, Moa, and others are responsible for some of the world's greatest attrocities.

If you really want, I could point out all the atrocities caused by "christian" leadership

Talizar · Jun 16, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by Keesa

Guildwars is not a public game. It is a product created by a privately held company for the purpose of creating revenue. Additionally, non-profit social organizations are considered private entities and are entitled to have requirements for membership (in fact, they MUST have requirements if they want to incorporate under the official designation, which I believe is 501(c)(3), feel free to correct me ).

Additionally, your lumping together of race and religion as having the same inviolate rights is fallacious. Race is an immutable fact of nature; religion is not.

The laws are the same for descriminating against a persons race as they are against their religion or sexual orientation for that matter.

Mountain Man · Jun 16, 2005, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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Originally Posted by Talizar

What if i advertise my guild as "Intelligent Pvp/pve guild recruiting more members, no christians allowed."

I would have no problem with that any more than I would have a problem if someone formed a guild that specifically excluded fans of Star Trek.

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Or i just spam Christians are morons, that wont offend u at all cause christianity is a choice =)

No, it wouldn't offend me in the least. I might think you're an idiot, but i wouldn't be offended.

Kryss · Jun 16, 2005, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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Originally Posted by Talizar

What if i advertise my guild as "Intelligent Pvp/pve guild recruiting more members, no christians allowed."

Or i just spam Christians are morons, that wont offend u at all cause christianity is a choice =)

THAT would be in violation of the rules of this game. And he's never stated that non Christians are not allowed. These are just some people that share and practice the same belief system in life and game.

Give it up, if he's in violation it will be dealt with if not /ignore.

Dreamsmith · Jun 16, 2005, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by Mountain Man

If you really want to press the point, perhaps you should consider the fact that atheist dictators like Stalin, Hitler, Moa, and others are responsible for some of the world's greatest attrocities.

Actually, Hitler was Christian, but your other examples and your general point is sound.

Keesa · Jun 16, 2005, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by Talizar

The laws are the same for descriminating against a persons race as they are against their religion or sexual orientation for that matter.

Not true (but unless you have a background in civil rights law we won't go there). And regardless, the application of the law that you're trying to use to justify your argument does not apply to social organizations established within the bounds of a privately held property.

Talizar · Jun 16, 2005, 06:54 PM // 18:54

ANYWAY...The point i was trying to make originaly is keep your beliefs out of the game. It's not enough all the problems it causes in real world but people must drag it into fantasy worlds as well. And what kind of a christian organization are u running when it's based on killing things and taking their stuff?

Than · Jun 16, 2005, 06:55 PM // 18:55

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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

If you really want, I could point out all the atrocities caused by "christian" leadership

I would prefer the term "Human leadership." Religion has jack to do with being a complete F***tard. Its just a means to an end for some, same for nationality, race, or what have you.

Edit:That of course doesn't make being White or German inherently evil/bad. Theres more to a way of life then the F***tards who are willing to kill in its name.

Synthos · Jun 16, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56

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Originally Posted by Dreamsmith

Actually, Hitler was Christian, but your other examples and your general point is sound.

You could go as far to say that money and power is a religion. Both are worshiped, change peoples lives, and have followers.

Kuku Monk · Jun 16, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Allow me to interrupt the love fest for a minute: are we all away from our gaming machines at the moment? I for one would be playing now rather than read these pointless little tiffs... So where is everyone at???

ManadartheHealer · Jun 16, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56

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Originally Posted by Than

Religion has jack to do with being a complete F***tard.

I agree and disagree. While religion is really separate from being a total asshat, sometimes people hide behind it or use it as an excuse; and then it gets dragged into the equation

Keesa · Jun 16, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Talizar

ANYWAY...The point i was trying to make originaly is keep your beliefs out of the game. It's not enough all the problems it causes in real world but people must drag it into fantasy worlds as well. And what kind of a christian organization are u running when it's based on killing things and taking their stuff?

Your opinions, when not presented as fact or shored up by insupportable arguments regarding alleged discrimination, are yours and you are free to express them in a respectful manner.

So is the OP.

Mountain Man · Jun 16, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

If you really want, I could point out all the atrocities caused by "christian" leadership

Be my guest. The point I was challenging was the previous claim in this thread that religion was responsible, in whole or in part, for every act war.

Than · Jun 16, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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I agree and disagree. While religion is really separate from being a total asshat, sometimes people hide behind it or use it as an excuse; and then it gets dragged into the equation

Like I said a means to an end, for some. I will not let the infractions of a few spoil my image of the whole.

Keesa · Jun 16, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Kuku Monk

Allow me to interrupt the love fest for a minute: are we all away from our gaming machines at the moment? I for one would be playing now rather than read these pointless little tiffs... So where is everyone at???

On hold, at work.

Talizar · Jun 16, 2005, 06:58 PM // 18:58

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Originally Posted by Kuku Monk

Allow me to interrupt the love fest for a minute: are we all away from our gaming machines at the moment? I for one would be playing now rather than read these pointless little tiffs... So where is everyone at???

I got another hour to kill at work.

Kuku Monk · Jun 16, 2005, 06:58 PM // 18:58

2 for me then an hour drive home